Resident Evil Wikia Error Round-Up

First pick of choice will go to this, listing the eliminator as a product of the Progenitor virus, and even reverting the corrections Project Umbrella was happily to recorrect them for.

Round-Up No.1

1) Eliminator - a general misconception among the Wikia populace appears to be that the Eliminator/Lurker/Plague Crawler are created through the use of the Progenitor virus. This is heavily incorrect, with the only source (B.O.W. Report) being HEAVILY misunderstood. The Insecta, Amphibia and Mammalia subjects detailed in the report are indeed infected with Progenitor, they were one of Marcus' early experiments with the virus prior to the development of the T-virus. Marcus concluded that Mammalia exhibited the best response to the virus, and deduced that humans would be best suited. But Progenitor kills humans. What the Wikia does not seem to comprehend is that Marcus repeated the experiment after developing the T-virus to ascertain and identify any differences. This lead to the Eliminator, Lurker and Plague Crawler.

2) Spencer estate - a certain few on the Wikia think it is fun to make up confusing names for locations which already have predetermined set names. In this case, the Spencer estate refers to the Arklay Research Facility. The "logic" behind this is supposedly that Spencer estate is an official name when it is actually never used in the series, ever. The actual Spencer Estate is Spencer's residence in Europe. A misconception among certain Wikia users appears to be that Spencer lived in the facility, this is massively incorrect. The facility is entirely a research institute, including the mansion and residence portions. This was a fact acknowledged by the citizens of Raccoon City themselves. It is not a living space, and most definitely not a private estate as suggested on the Wikia. What's a little uneccesary confusion though, right?

3) T-Virus - the Wikia article for the T-virus is what can be described as none other than a joke. Spencer did not demand a 100% infection rate from the Progenitor virus, he demanded a 100% infection rate from the T-virus, and not from Marcus, but from Wesker and Birkin. Ivies (Plant 43) were also not developed at the Arklay Research Facility. The UBCS were not dispatched to the Training Facility and they were not there to wipe out an infection. I'm actually going to stop there because the rest is just a complete pain to read.

More to come.

Hence why I don't go there anymore.

Apparently the Kaitaishinsho guides are riddled with mistakes while the games themselves aren't. Aside from oh I dunno. Wesker supposedly being infected with the T-virus. "Master" Plaga. Can go on really. Viewer discretion is advised as the following statement consists of a lot of ignorance and generally comes from someone heavily mis-informed. Or not informed at all would be the most accurate.

Quote:

Really? Because all I can see is Japanese. You do realise that the books (not just the novels) contain errors? Think of it like the Halo Encyclopedia. The B.O.W. Report is within the very game that introduces the creature, thus would be considered the canon. The Capcom books go around the same amount of canon as the official websites: canon unless they go against canon.-- Forerunner 21:57, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

I can actually forgive them for the Eliminator/Progenitor thing on the basis of sheer ignorance.  If all you see are the error-riddled American guides, you might decide not to take any guides as canon, and that leaves only the games.  And how many of us were thrown off by the B.O.W. Report on that basis?

That said...they seem to be willing to accept an uncanny collection of errors from plenty of other sources, including comics.  So screw them.

Yeah the annoying part comes when they ignore other, much more valid sources.

They also have coverage of the Anderson films. Minus a million points.

I see this thread for what it is, and I won't mince words here. I had seriously hoped that News Bot would not resort to these kinds of tactics, but such is not the case. I shall say my peace and be done with it, as I anticipate an immediate ban will follow. I personally cannot stand internet drama, as I find it silly and pointless.

News Bot, whenever he saw an error on the wiki, would (instead of staring his case in terms other than "you're wrong" in the talk pages as I repeatedly asked him to) make vulgar and often personal attacks against other users, admins included, in addition to starting edit wars. If he or anyone else want to make changes or correct errors, all they would need to do is edit the article, then explain the edit in the talk page in a civilized manner.

Plot points are obviously not my major concern (as my user name would suggest), and I largely leave those to others. But I do ask that they remain courteous and considerate to other users. Any other would have been banned for this abrasive behaviour, but I refrained from doing so in hopes keeping any bridges from being burned between our sites. I made it very clear that these guidelines were the generally accepted policy there, and asked that he try to respect them just as he would expect others to respect the rules here regardless of their own opinion. Perhaps this was a mistake. I honestly cannot say for certain.

However, the most active Admin, Forerunner, apparently took it more personally, and applied a 3 day ban to News Bot's account. I greatly wish that he had not done so, as I anticipated that such an action would result in exactly this sort of drama. I plan to inform him of the fallout from it, but it will be his decision on how to react.

Which bits of information were in dispute in their feud? I do not know. Was News Bot informing him of legitimate errors? It wouldn't surprise me in the least. But it appears both sides have over reacted, and it devolved into this while I was away for Christmas.

I'm not an admin there because I'm some sort of rabid fan, or because I analyze every aspect of the franchise; neither applies to me. I just found my niche in regards to a particular element which I watch over with an occasional venture outside to undo vandalism or settle (or in this case attempt to settle) disputes among users. This behavior from both sides absolutely baffles me. Maybe I simply cannot get into this fandom mindset.

Internets. Serious Business.

Topic was made for the benefit of people who actually believe the information on the Wikia, since apparently correcting blatant mistakes is a terrible mishap of good will.

Here's another one:

The Merchant does not have a Control Plaga. Rofl.

Oh, and here is the evidence I presented to Forerunner concerning the Eliminator which I got banned on the Wikia for:  http://i46.tinypic.com/b7bceg.jpg

Forerunner claims that t-virus isn't mentioned, but it is right there on the second line. First character, too. Hard to miss the only English letter there. The actual sentence reads something along the lines of "Dr. Marcus t-virus prototype specimen". This is from the Biohazard 0 Kaitaishinsho (Dissolution) guidebook. Let me remind you that the Wikia has already copied information off this site before, and continues to do so with our translations of the Biohazard 5 Kaitaishinsho guidebook. Yet they are unwilling to steal when they don't agree with it. Thats lovely.

You know, GunFreak brings up a good point. While I completely agree with the existence of this type of thread, due to the mass number of errors and speculation on the Wiki, I do suggest we try to leave personal quips and emotion out of it. That's really the only way to do it without burning people who happen to favor one site over the other, or both sites.

I respect those on the Wiki who try to keep things orderly, but I gave up the day I signed up there because there are just too many errors to correct, and too many people willing to put speculation on the  pages. That's what I like about PU more, and I'd hate to see new or potential members turned off to this site because they came by the forums and saw any kind of negativity towards another site, and mistook us for a bunch of drama-nuts.

Just my two cents.

Ok I don't get it.  You say that the RE wiki says that the merchant has a master plaga but at the wiki now and since November it has nothing about it.  The only stuff it says about the merchant is that he had a plaga but failed to control him so hence he gets the freaky eyes but isn't controlled.  So I think you got your info wrong there.

That's still incredibly wrong. Also, it says it in the Master Plaga article (the Master Plaga is actually just a Control Plaga), not the Merchant article.

Prove me wrong give me the link where it says the merchant has a master plaga.

So control plaga and the master plaga are the same. Then why does the mutation change bader 4 Sadler? So was Salazzar and  Mendez only a nomal plaga?

Salazar and Mendez had modified Subordinate Plaga.

http://residentevil.wikia.com/Las_Plagas

Ahh... Choice Mr. Boss.

Play nice, kids.....or no pudding.

? We are though. I want my pudding!

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

You've earned it.

If you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding?

Anyways, could somebody clear up this Plaga thing for me? Were Mendez, et al, just infected with overly powerful normal Plaga?

As News Bot said, it's a modified subordinate plaga:

It's similar to the normal plagas (the ones in the ganados), but modified so the host can control it. This way, they don't have control over the other plagas.

Yeah, he can't control the townspeople but they believe in him so they will still do what they are told, but not mind controlled style.

I turned this thread around. HIYO!

Pudding for all!

Ok guys, enough with the off-topic posts. Else I start handing out infractions.

Is the eliminator made by the Progenitor virus or T?

T-Virus I do believe. Marcus had tried using Progenitor on primates, but the Eliminator was created during his trials with the T-virus.

In my opinion, it's hard to tell based solely on in-game evidence, especially because the B.O.W. Report indicates that Progenitor was tested in all the same kinds of animals which appear in the game as enemies.  However, the Archives, certain fairly accurate official guides, and miscellaneous material are quite unanimous on the subject: Eliminators were created using the T-Virus.